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This House would ban homework

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Should teachers teach or give an outline and then pass on the learning to be done by the studens at home or teach at school and may e lractice at home?

Surveys conducted recently has shown that most of the children do not do E-Learning practices, because, once they log into their computers, they start surfing the net, and soon woud just totally ignore about E-Learning, thus homework for students should be given. I, as a student, have once skipped E-Learning, and so did my friends. After that, though we learnt our mistake, but the exercise was not done! What if there was a question that came out in the examinations? 

Since you brought this post up in response to one of my posts below I thought I should provide some thoughts on this.

Why do you go to school? Either you want to learn and go eagerly or are worried about potential punishment if you do not. Either can be applied just as easily to elearning as to any other type of learning. If you are eager to learn then the chances are you will race through the elearning with the benefit of being able to go through things faster than you could at school. If however you’re motivation is because you know you have to then this not still the same with elearning. The only difference would be if there is a perception that you can get away with skipping elearning where you can’t with skipping classes. In practice there is little reason why this should be the case as you would still need to complete the specific pieces of work that show how far you have come on the course, or more Orwellian there could be monitoring of when you log on to check you actually do the particular online lessons that have been asigned.

I can certainly see that there is a problem with temptations but this is not insolvable; if the internet is the temptation then build some kind of tablet that only provides educational resources. It is clearly an issue that would have to be resolved if there ever were to be a move away from teaching in schools to large amounts being taught outside. If the whole system was being changed there would be the potential for creating software that prevents internet browsing beyond designated sites until the earmarked lectures/work has been watched/completed.

p.s. it is always good to reference your sources if you are going to use them

p.p.s. It is best not to universalize your own experience. You and some friends may have skipped e-learning but it is not as if skipping class is impossible; a great many people do. (I realize your use of studies somewhat mitigates this)

Should teachers teach or give an outline and then pass on the learning to be done by the studens at home or teach at school and may e lractice at home?

Teachers or subjects should have a limit in how much homework they give to each class. For example I got more Art homework than English and Maths put together! (That was in a term (12 weeks))

I think kids need to have a breather and some time to relax before getting up in the morning and doing the 7 hours of school again. Even more for teenagers and young children.

Homework should be banned from school.

I second this cause. By the way have you ever thought that school is more favoured to girls than boys, i think we should create a debate on this topic, i would do it but i just became a member and i am still learning how to work this website. i am a boy in school so i would know,15. Going back to the point ,i think homework is which a teacher dishes out punishment to his/her students. i have so much homework i have to sleep at 12 pm 

I think that homework should not be banned just on THAT reason. Why? If your teacher is that unreasonable, does not mean other teacher are. And also, you have openly insulted your teacher. If she really gave a lot of homework, you could ask her nicely if she could reduce the workload. And, if you do homework until  midnight, ask yourself first," Are u efficient enough?" As to your boy versus girls issue, I'm a girl from Secondary school, and I don't think that there is any difference between the treatment. I rather think that it's the boys who are too mischievous, thus the teachers would obviously scold the boys more.

I am also in school, and while I hate the math teachers that give you homework every day, it does serve a purpose. while i get A's on most tests anyways, when I do my homework my grades are generally higher. Sometimes teachers do not have time in class to properly reinforce, and make students remeber, the information they teach. On the other hand, I would like to point out that giving too much homework is the mark of a bad teacher, and shows the teacher cannot teach the information well in the time given.

What should happen is a limit be placed on the homework that students should be given.

Being a fellow student, I hear you out, but must disagree with you on this. The point in assigning homework is not to punish students but to ensure that the information taught in class that day is understood and while stick in the minds of the student.  Busy work given by teachers to act as if something has been done in class, i.e coloring, word searches is a completly difference ball game from actual homework e.g geometry proofs, WWI timelines, and essays. There is also not enough time in the school day to have all of the needed work to be done, so things which require help and supervision are allocated to be done at school while backup-work (work backing up and providing structure to the previously learned knowledge) is to be done at home.

I think that homework should be banned, at least in primary schools but ideally for all levels of education.

We all know that it is important for everyone to fullfill the necessary requirements of sleep, socialisation and relaxing/fun time. For youth, these activities are even more important. By banning homework we will give children and young adults more time to participate in sport, socialise with friends and family, and sleep. The more physical activity and sleep a person gets, the more happy and willing to learn they will be. A relaxed, happy and wide-awake student is more valuable and able to learn than a tired one. If students do not have to stay up late all night doing homework, then they will be able to complete more of these needs and therefore be able to apply themselves more in class. They will come to school refreshed and ready to learn, while a perpetually tired and stressed student who is always working will not be able to reach their full potential.

However, if a student has not completed the required workload in class, wishes to do more work to better themselves or has a test coming up and must study, the student should do these things.

Amy19785 wrote:

However, if a student has not completed the required workload in class, wishes to do more work to better themselves or has a test coming up and must study, the student should do these things.

I agree, homework should act as an equaliser in the class ensuring that everyone is at the same place and has understood what has been taught. In orther words it should be for finishing classwork and that should not mean setting so much classwork that no one will ever finish it in class! Ideally then there would be a few minutes at the beginning of the next lession making sure that everyone really has understood the previous one.

We should ban homework,because what we see now,every student spends the whole day by doing homework other than sleeping and playing sports.

What goverment will do is to  limit the classwork given by the teachers.

If we let the students spend their whole day by doing homework,it will remove the right for the sudents to spend their free time because of too much homework.Imagine that you plan to play soccer together with your friends tomorow evening.On the next day,you go to school and the teacher gives you a lot of homework.You can't complete it before the evening because it is to much and your friends wait you for a long time and your friend will dissapointed.

Besides,if we let this happen,as I said just now the students will spend their whole day by doing homework and will not play sports.We already know that sports can improve our health so if we let this thing happen,the rate of obesity children will increase day by day only because of their homework. 

While there are positive and negative aspects to homework, I don't believe the issues are actually with homework itself, but more the amount of it given by teachers. Everything should be proportional to requirements, just like everything needs to be in moderation. 

If there is an issue with the amount of work needing to be done with a class (i.e before an exam), then, while giving homework is a good way to "finish off and consolidate" the day's work, I think that there is a great deal of opportunity for teachers to accomplish more with students during lessons. 

How many people have had lessons with which very little real, mentally challenging work has been accomplished? A lot of time in lessons is wasted, and if this time was used more practically, perhaps the amount of homework need not be so extensive. 

 

 

Haikal Irfan Amir wrote:

We should ban homework,because what we see now,every student spends the whole day by doing homework other than sleeping and playing sports.

What goverment will do is to  limit the classwork given by the teachers.

If we let the students spend their whole day by doing homework,it will remove the right for the sudents to spend their free time because of too much homework.Imagine that you plan to play soccer together with your friends tomorow evening.On the next day,you go to school and the teacher gives you a lot of homework.You can't complete it before the evening because it is to much and your friends wait you for a long time and your friend will dissapointed.

Besides,if we let this happen,as I said just now the students will spend their whole day by doing homework and will not play sports.We already know that sports can improve our health so if we let this thing happen,the rate of obesity children will increase day by day only because of their homework. 

 

so true!

 

I'm sure that there is another way to keep healthy. And also, I do not believe that the teacher is so unreasonable. If you had even put in the EFFORT to ask the teacher politely that you really don't have enough time, I'm very very sure that your teacher would at least reconsider. Also, a student's job is to study hard and do things the right way! If you don't have any homework, how can you progress even further? Another issue is your time management and efficiency. If you plan to do homework in 2 hrs, it's very unreasonable. And if you didn't even complete in 2 hrs, that means that you are not efficient enough. That will be your own problem, so please don't argue anymore due to your own bad habits. And you say that your friends would be disappointed because you couldn't play soccer with them, then why are they free but you are not? This proves even more that it's your own problem and please go solve it without further ado, as you can already think of the solution with all this time of arguing and debating. Thanks.

But homework is used to nurture yourselves even further so that in the future, you can become more outstanding than the others if you do your work well enough. And if you play and "socialise" everyday instead of doing homework now, what would become of you in the future, a beggar?

no it shouldn't.bcoz homework is the way how a teacher can understand a students progess.if the student has any prob understanding the material it would be clear from the mistakes which he will make in home work. eventually the teacher can easily point out the students area of weakness. so home works help improve a student. it can also be a practice for exams.

Why cant classwork perform this role?

Because during class, the teacher is supposed to TEACH, not let you do homework whic is SUPPOSED to do at home. Your whole concept of this homework is wrong, so why should I be persuaded that homewrok should be banned???

Your education may have been different but until I went to university I almost never had any lessions where the whole time was spent being taught and there are very good reasons for this - is we spend all day every day learning new information we are not going to remember it all. As a result I did plenty of 'classwork' that was very similar to 'homework' and could perform the same function.

Also I think you are taking a very narrow and traditional view of teaching in general if you think that no other model can work. I suggest you take a look at http://blog.heritage.org/2013/05/19/idahos-khan-academy-initiative-embracing-educational-technology/

Finally might I point out that my comment was not arguing that homework should be banned simply that the justification given by the previous for maintaining homework does not carry much weight.

I think that you should go see my reply for the E-Learning thing. And also, might I remind you, that you should be on either side proposition or opposition, thus, since you are denying my rebuttals, and i'm on opposition, i believe that u are on proposition, which means that homework should be banned. Thus you are arguing that homewrok should be banned. And since you posted that website, i think that u should be on side opposition instead, which does not ban homework, but could change a way of doing homework. And i'm just a sec student, so pls forgive me for any nonsense said if there is.

I dont tend to consider the forums to be strictly for 'debate' in that there are only two sides. Rather while there will be dispute in forums the aim is to persuade others not to maintain a line whereby they always have to be opposition. In a debate you are persuading the judges but there are no judges except the audience in a forum and they may chip in with views that dont correspond to either side.

I am not sure how relevant your reply about elearning is here. Almost any 'elearning' is going to be 'homework' in that it is likely to be done at home - it could be done in class but that would defeat part of the point (though there would still be benefits, particularly for the teacher). My bringing up elearning was to point out that homework does not have to be about doing exercises while being taught does not have to happen in the classroom. Logically my response that classwork can perform the measurement role leads to the suggestion that there should be more time in school rather than a different form of homework (elearning) - at least if you are determined that I should be arguing against homework!

We need to have homework as it helps us remeber by doing classwork at diffrent times so the information is comitted to memory. Also, sometimes teachers do not have enough time to teach all the things in class they would like, but if a teacher gives too much homework the are probably not making good use of the time given to them to teach in.

I don't think so that homework should be banned beacause homework is not any burden but a revision for students what they studied at school. though it should be given in moderate amount so that students can do it with ease . homework makes child punctual and responsible. so, homework is important at school level for kids.

Where is the United States standing with the world thats right we are getting no where because our students are less educated . we have students who play sports and get a high school degree with out ever knowing how to read . Yes homework is very important maybe they need to update inthe way they give students homework more on hands training  because when i left high school i was never ready for the REAL WORLD nope .Thats what they need to teach for homework about real life they can use in the real world. Its tough not easy out there to cope with and how to do deal with other humans , about money how to manage it  to earn it and use it  productive.

ace wrote:

Yes homework is very important maybe they need to update inthe way they give students homework more on hands training  because when i left high school i was never ready for the REAL WORLD nope .Thats what they need to teach for homework about real life they can use in the real world. Its tough not easy out there to cope with and how to do deal with other humans , about money how to manage it  to earn it and use it  productive.

While I agree that too many people leave school unprepared for real life I am not sure that Homework is a good way of preparing people for real life. How does it  teach people "how to deal with other humans" or about money? 

I strongly disagree with this ban. Why ban homework? If students had no homework, then they would be free to do whatever they wanted after school, instead of applying the knowledge they learned that day. That is the whole point of homework: to encourage students to work on applying the knowledge they learned without help from others. While I do know that this does put stress on the student if they have excess amounts of homework, it is necessary to put forth at least some effort in pursuing your education. There are also those students who use their laptops or iPhones and other crazy gadgets to find the answers themselves, but then that prompts another question: why do they own those devices in the first place? There is no absolute need for them in your life.   On a final note, no homework encourages students to be lazy at home, and we all know that the last thing every mom and dad wants is another lazy teenager.  -William Newlin                                                                                                                                                                                                        

Why ban homework you say?

well let's see, homework has taught me shit all... For years I did my homework, and to a pretty good standard to, but for what reason?  You say that "they would be free to do whatever they wanted after school," well as kids/teens that is exactly what we want. We go to school Monday to Friday roughly 6 hours a day to sit in a class room and be taught most of which is irrelevant to what we will need later in life or something that does not interest  us in the slightest.  But when we come home after school, well that's our time to get away, it's our time to do what we want because that's what we enjoy... No one wants to come home after spending their day "learning"  to have to do even more work. Now again you say that the whole point of homework is to apply what we learned during the day without the help of others, well if we have to go home and study what we are learning teachers aren't doing a very good job. If they can't get accross to is the material we are supposed to learn, we are the ones that suffer so you try to give us homework so we can learn for ourselves... Well then what's the point of going to school in the first place? Why can't we remove that step and take out the middle man? But no we can't do that, as much as I hate school the one good thing it teaches us is how to be competitive... Everything in life is a competition, you want a job but there is only one spot? You have to compete with others to get it. Want a girlfriend? Well someone might like the same girl as you too etc. I think that schools have to stop worrying about what thy should and shouldn't do but just go out and actually teach kids what they need to learn. Teach kids valuable life lessons, things they will need to know for when they grow up not stuff like poetry. If they choose to learn this stuff then great but don't force pointless facts onto kids when you could actually be helping them prepare for their life. Now I believe that no amount of homework will help kids prepare for life, all it does is give them less time to do the things they want to do and more stress. 

Mitch_13 wrote:

I think that schools have to stop worrying about what thy should and shouldn't do but just go out and actually teach kids what they need to learn. Teach kids valuable life lessons, things they will need to know for when they grow up not stuff like poetry. If they choose to learn this stuff then great but don't force pointless facts onto kids when you could actually be helping them prepare for their life. Now I believe that no amount of homework will help kids prepare for life, all it does is give them less time to do the things they want to do and more stress. 

The problem here is what do we define as pointless facts? Surely most schools think that everything they teach has some worth otherwise they would not teach it. Poetry for example might help with literacy, and with encouraging creativity. And you say that everyone should have the opportunity to pursue such options but to do that there needs to be some poetry taught so that people learn of the existance and types of poetry in the first place so that think know if they want to move forward with it.

I completely agree that homework should be banned. As a 16 year old pupil in the latter year of my GCSE course, i receive a lot of homework. I do this homework very half-heartedly and learn very little from it. I do not finish school and get home until after 6pm, by which time a two hour homework session seems very daunting and ruins my nights. Due to the other things i want to do in the evenings (eat, talk to my friends, go to the gym etc.) i do not manage to wrap up my night and go to bed until after 11pm, which makes me very tired at school. This interferes with not only my ability to complete the school work i am given, but also my mood throughout the day and my attitude in general to school. I have never enjoyed school anyway, and i am quite a negative person , so being tired in school constantly and having lots of homework usually equates to me missing four or five days of school per half-term.

I completely agree that homework should be banned. As a 16 year old pupil in the latter year of my GCSE course, i receive a lot of homework. I do this homework very half-heartedly and learn very little from it. I do not finish school and get home until after 6pm, by which time a two hour homework session seems very daunting and ruins my nights. Due to the other things i want to do in the evenings (eat, talk to my friends, go to the gym etc.) i do not manage to wrap up my night and go to bed until after 11pm, which makes me very tired at school. This interferes with not only my ability to complete the school work i am given, but also my mood throughout the day and my attitude in general to school. I have never enjoyed school anyway, and i am quite a negative person , so being tired in school constantly and having lots of homework usually equates to me missing four or five days of school per half-term.

I guess not. Nowadays, kids are distracted by a lot of things such as TV and the Internet that they don't have time to study bu themselves. Buy givng out homeworks, they are forced to spare time to do their duties as a student.

I think that homework should not be banned. There are many reasons to justify this. The first being, that homework reinforces whatever has been learnt in school from the relevant subject. During classes, teachers cannot be checking what the students are doing every second of the lesson, so by giving out homework and expecting it to be completed, it not only lets the teacher know what students have grasped but also what they are finding difficulties with, not to mention which students are not completing the homework. This information could enable the teacher to be more productive in class, which would be beneficial to the students. And the point of school is not just gettiing information, and being expected to remember it. Doing homework is helpful in letting students absorb information from their subjects, as in class they might be taught new material every lesson, and that times 4-7 subjects everyday depending on the school, would be difficult to remember. Some would argue that if teachers don;t give out homework, they will hve more time to prepare better lessons for children. I say it would be tiime better spent if they do  a specific exercise or chapter before school at home the previous day, and come to school with any difficulties concerning the subject they needed help with. Something that school is designed to help students with is time management and organisation. These two qualtiies are essential to be being more efficient, and should be developed in all individuals from a young age to prepare them for college, university and their futures after that. It builds students' abilities being able to handle work and organise their schedule. It is stupidity to ban homework from schools, and to prevent students from improving aspects of their learning.

yes homework for the student should be banned because today students needs to be more informative and more practcal what they are learning it is very easy for teachers to give huge homework for the students but it is us who has to complete that. and on the other side if our teacher can prepare lessions well then during class we can know about that lession very good we have to give almost 7 hours in school and in home too we have to do home work.it is not fair. teachers should be more practicle to ask different question form students. E-learing and such ways are a good option 

one of the most important thing is this after a standard line student should do or learn what they want to learn not their family or by doing their future will be bright

in case of middle clas students if they are not doing homework as they should do then who is there to say to him or her that you are doing wrong and you need to correct that.

 

There is an important significance in homework.

Rather than thinking homework as something that does not help most people and a waste of time, homework can be seen as a yardstick of diligence. For example, one of the medalists in Sochi Olympics is said to have done every homework in her school even though she was focusing more on her future career as a skater. If homeworks do not threaten your life, homeworks are worth doing for the future. Even though people might say that homeworks are often not related to what 'I wanna do', but sometimes things happen. We cannot do everything as what we desire. There are sometimes things we would rather die than to do it but have to do it diligently. In this sense homeworks are best preparation for these situations.

Also, diligence is a necessity for all careers. Diligence is closely related with the ability of self-reflection. According to research, celebrities who are considered to be 'successful' all had an extraordinary capacity in this area. In the case of homeworks, all people must hate to do it when they can spend the time by watching TV or playing games. Setting aside what we want to do and doing what we have to do is a key to the celebrities shown in the research, Others might say what about Steve Jobs, Bill Gates and other people who had no problem with their life but were not that fit to school system. But they are exceptional cases. For most people without such brilliance, there has to be a training for the ability of controlling oneself. For students, schools are aiding them in their best efforts to make students successful.

As a boy in school i find that homework annoys me, I barely have time to do my senseless activities when i am loaded up with all this homework crap. Not only that but I work from 1800-2300. and i just do not have enough time to get home and do my homework. I practically get home and start getting ready for work.

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Students shouldn't have to do homework for the following reasons:

1. 

2. Wastes family time and chance to do after school ciriculam and activities

3. If really a big change then just make kids have longer school hours

4. It can stress kids out

5. Kids can loose sleep from homework taking to much time

I think it is ok to give children homework. It shouldn't be such an overwhelming amount that they can't relax, play, or are forced to miss family obligations. Homework enhances ones knowledge.

I believe homework is essential. We need more of it, not less, to reinforce lessons.

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